tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post2935465569864805537..comments2024-03-26T15:19:23.091-07:00Comments on false dichotomy by charles davis: Are liberals stupid?Charles Davishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06005070529766546097noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-53564918472378308032013-07-08T09:58:26.700-07:002013-07-08T09:58:26.700-07:00So the New Deal was authentic liberalism and not c...So the New Deal was authentic liberalism and not corporatist/proto-fascist? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-80428362641121447492013-07-02T20:28:01.371-07:002013-07-02T20:28:01.371-07:00Good stuff. Ya thanks for reading. SDSU ain't ...Good stuff. Ya thanks for reading. SDSU ain't exactly a bastion of intellectualism but still a fun place to study. <br /><br />I don't see a pathway forward for anarchism. It's a pipe dream, but a dream worth having. I think your stated problems with 'as good as it gets' liberalism speak for themselves and don't need my critiquing. That said, I think it's important to NOT fall into the lesser of two evils camp where so many well-intentioned liberals meander.ConArtisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589488269027542518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-79024821587786962132013-07-02T19:00:51.762-07:002013-07-02T19:00:51.762-07:00Critically admiring, with misgivings, FDR or LBJ, ...Critically admiring, with misgivings, FDR or LBJ, is hardly the equivalent of blow-towing to Obama/his party or awaiting, starry-eyed the next prophet. Again, there's authentic liberalism (which hasn't wielded any significant power for decades) and there's the corporatist/proto-fascist variation Obama & co. are pushing with great success. In American history, the New Deal and Great Society are as good as it's gotten. Was American life still fundamentally flawed, yes. Were both men unapologetic warmongers, yes. I admit that electoral politics is unlikely to return us to those relatively utopian days, but I'm afraid I don't see the anarchist's path FWD either. Care to articulate it?<br /><br />BTW, having glanced through your blog I'm a DC native and did my grad work at SDSU, a town I wish I'd never left (can't say the same for Versailles). jcapannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-89467715403732734192013-07-02T05:19:40.525-07:002013-07-02T05:19:40.525-07:00Well by mentioning the glory day liberalism of LBJ...Well by mentioning the glory day liberalism of LBJ/FDR it seems that you too are just looking for the next dynamic speaker or orator to captivate your mind. But maybe I misread your intent? I think anyone who mentions those guys would be susceptible to an Obama-type....and the reality is that most are. ConArtisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589488269027542518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-32472944383691488362013-07-02T03:41:17.993-07:002013-07-02T03:41:17.993-07:00Except that's not at all what I wrote. But tha...Except that's not at all what I wrote. But thanks anyway.jcapannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-28390444419879144142013-07-01T20:33:57.861-07:002013-07-01T20:33:57.861-07:00To further that point, the fact that jcapan holds ...To further that point, the fact that jcapan holds out 'hope' for the right combination of dipshits and assholes who ACTUALLY care about the body politic shows a lack of knowledge about the inherent problems within any formal institution of governance. ConArtisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589488269027542518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-49378462113914712122013-07-01T20:32:06.086-07:002013-07-01T20:32:06.086-07:00In Charles defense, those who DO NOT think they...In Charles defense, those who DO NOT think they're servile authoritarians in the 'liberal' or 'democratic' camp are often wrong and unaware of their own ascension to the state, or moreover the party leader of the day. That I believe was Charles' point in the article. ConArtisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589488269027542518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-32236088582417533272013-06-30T20:14:08.414-07:002013-06-30T20:14:08.414-07:00I'd say it's beyond "sad." It...I'd say it's beyond "sad." It's like a Thomas Hardy novel--there's simply no end to the despair. I've gone to war showing such "liberals" the contempt they merit, which is why I get a bit peeved when thrown in with them. And god help you if your only contact with liberalism comes through the prism of Netroots Nation/the liberal commentariat. But I admit that Obama's approval numbers among dems have varied between the 70s and 90s throughout his presidency. Albeit depressing, that does leave a lot of us out here in the wilderness, deeply disenchanted. And we should be targets for radicals like you--we have grave misgivings about electoral politics and see little hope of their redemption. While my own tendencies run socialist, I'm open to respectful persuasion.jcapannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-85038506234243524902013-06-30T19:29:39.803-07:002013-06-30T19:29:39.803-07:00“We all know liberals think they're the smarte...“We all know liberals think they're the smartest ones in the room”<br /><br />Yeah and all anarchists are feral bombthrowers. Come on Charles, you surely know some liberals and some democrats who defy this caricature? I still call myself a liberal but haven’t voted in the last two cycles and revoked my D-party membership last year. And there are many more remaining dems who think their party has been taken over by a bunch of evil men. The liberalism of LBJ or FDR’s time may be on life-support but it sure as shit has nothing to do with the term you’re using here—Barack Obama has never self-identified as liberal. <br /><br />I was recently annoyed when Freddie Deboer painted with a wide, anecdotal and offensive brush all anarchists in a way amenable to his fevered imagination. But I daresay you and yours don’t do much better when you say liberal dems are all servile authoritarians. A bit more precision from the professional writer would be appreciated. Eventually we’ll be sharing a cell or a foxhole—it’d be nice if we could have even the slightest sense of common cause.<br />jcapannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-70796482854370856812013-06-27T18:11:13.454-07:002013-06-27T18:11:13.454-07:00That's liberals for you, always with the cult ...That's liberals for you, always with the cult talk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9339045.post-22957538852031814262013-06-27T16:38:01.898-07:002013-06-27T16:38:01.898-07:002008: The year I became a full on anarchist2008: The year I became a full on anarchistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com